Curse

UndeadRoadkill · May 03, 2006, 12:36 AM // 00:36

I've heard warriors get their Canthan stonefist gauntlets, why do the necros have to wear the ugly boots with the nice skins? And isn't it an unfair advantage for Tyrians if Canthans don't have access to these?

Does-it-Matter · May 03, 2006, 12:40 AM // 00:40

It depends what you mean by "unfair advantage."

Tyrians (assuming you mean "unmerged prophecy account") get access to Tyria only skills while Canthans (assuming again you mean an unmerged factions account) get access to Canthan only skills.

They ARE two different games. You don't need to have everything be equally availible to each. If you must have it.. buy both games and merge the accounts. Otherwise, what's the point of buying both chapters if you want everything the other chapters have in every other chapter?

Lampshade · May 03, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

There is no advantage. They do the exact same thing, just look different.
(unless there are no crafters in Cantha that make blood boots)

UndeadRoadkill · May 03, 2006, 12:49 AM // 00:49

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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

It depends what you mean by "unfair advantage."

Tyrians (assuming you mean "unmerged prophecy account") get access to Tyria only skills while Canthans (assuming again you mean an unmerged factions account) get access to Canthan only skills.

They ARE two different games. You don't need to have everything be equally availible to each. If you must have it.. buy both games and merge the accounts. Otherwise, what's the point of buying both chapters if you want everything the other chapters have in every other chapter?

Yes, I mean unmerged Canthans. I have both games, my concern is aesthetics, but I am also sympathetic to those who only have Factions. Anet has said again and again that you don't have to buy both to remain on equal footing, that they are different, but equal. A Tyrian with bloodstained boots with the same skill as a Canthan without will get all the corpses before the Canthan can.

UndeadRoadkill · May 03, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52

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Originally Posted by Lampshade

unless there are no crafters in Cantha that make blood boots

Yeah, it's not that they're crafted in Cantha with the old skin, it's that nobody crafts them there at all.

Does-it-Matter · May 03, 2006, 12:54 AM // 00:54

You are compairing a Prophecies only character to a Factions only character, I believe. So this is how I would look at it:

A quick note, I've been too obsessed playing my Assassin to bring my Necro over, so I haven't started looking at skills yet.

Though, I would assume that there are skills or armor capable of "balancing" such a difference. It may not be Bloodstained boots per se, it could be a larger abundance of "cast faster" weapons or skills that do the similar.

Remember, we're still really on the first week of mass gameplay, they need to tweek a lot of unforseen things. Also, things may not have worked as plans, so they need to adjust that as well.

A legitimate question though. I hope that helps.

Hello Kitty · May 03, 2006, 01:02 AM // 01:02

/signed

Pretty please make this happen for my MM Anet! >_<

The MM suit is nice for the rest of my armor, but I still want the Bloodstained Boots.

UndeadRoadkill · May 03, 2006, 01:10 AM // 01:10

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Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter

You are compairing a Prophecies only character to a Factions only character, I believe. So this is how I would look at it:

A quick note, I've been too obsessed playing my Assassin to bring my Necro over, so I haven't started looking at skills yet.

Though, I would assume that there are skills or armor capable of "balancing" such a difference. It may not be Bloodstained boots per se, it could be a larger abundance of "cast faster" weapons or skills that do the similar.

Remember, we're still really on the first week of mass gameplay, they need to tweek a lot of unforseen things. Also, things may not have worked as plans, so they need to adjust that as well.

A legitimate question though. I hope that helps.

Really, I'm comparing a merged account with a Factions-only account. Anet has said repeatedly that merging will provide no clear competative advantage over non-merged. There is an abundance of faster-casting items in Cantha, but you can get those things in Tyria as well. Not to mention that those work on chance, and BB works unconditionally, and works *with* fast-casting items.

It seems to me like Anet just "forgot" to add them to the crafting menu, I can't see why they wouldn't be available. I posted this here in the suggestions forum in the hopes that this will be one of the things they address in the patches over these weeks. I didn't really see anyone talking about it, so I just wanted to raise awareness.

Does-it-Matter · May 03, 2006, 01:31 AM // 01:31

Hmm, I really don't know what to tell you then. They may have a plan, there may be skills that balance it out, etc. But like I said, I haven't had a chance to run my Necro through the content.

I would just point out though, that with so many skill cominbations, variations, etc. it will take them a while to figure out exactly what is a "broken" skill, item, armor, etc. Perhaps while they were considering thoughs, BB slipped their mind. It is possible.

Hella Good · May 03, 2006, 01:40 AM // 01:40

I am sick of having those dumb looking Bloodstained Boots. There should be at least a few more skins for Bloodstained boots. I can tell you that I know right away w/o looking at my character if he's got his boots on when running anything that includes corpse exploitation- the boots just make such a notable difference. It puts Canthan only Necros at a clear disadvantage.

actionjack · May 03, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

The thread title just sound very nasty....

humanskin boot?

How come no one ever suggest leaving Red Foot Prints when you walk if you wear Bloodstained boots?

dansamy · May 03, 2006, 03:05 AM // 03:05

If they failed to include a "Bloodstained Boots" on the Canthan/Luxon/Kurzick crafters, I am going to be VERY, VERY upset. I specifically made a new necromancer in Factions to take advantage of the new hair/faces. (My necro is cute, cute, CUTE!) If she won't have access to a most basic piece of functional equipment for a corpse necro, then she's at a severe disadvantage.

UndeadRoadkill · May 03, 2006, 04:30 AM // 04:30

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Originally Posted by dansamy

If they failed to include a "Bloodstained Boots" on the Canthan/Luxon/Kurzick crafters, I am going to be VERY, VERY upset. I specifically made a new necromancer in Factions to take advantage of the new hair/faces. (My necro is cute, cute, CUTE!) If she won't have access to a most basic piece of functional equipment for a corpse necro, then she's at a severe disadvantage.

I can't confirm that Kurzick and Luxons don't have them, but I can tell you the Canthans don't, and if they don't, I doubt the others will.

dansamy · May 03, 2006, 05:33 PM // 17:33

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Originally Posted by UndeadRoadkill

I can't confirm that Kurzick and Luxons don't have them, but I can tell you the Canthans don't, and if they don't, I doubt the others will.

That's very disappointing. I can get all the "old attribute" armors with new skins in Cantha, except a pair of bloodstained boots. Necros got the shaft on their 15k Tyrian armors having new skins. When they got it, it wasn't all that much different from the 1.5k. Now, they are shafted again by not having all their armor choices available in the new skins. Gg Anet and their red-headed stepchild: the necro.

UndeadRoadkill · May 03, 2006, 10:23 PM // 22:23

I had a chance to ask Gaile about this today, and she said she'd mention it to the devs. Perhaps we'll get them eventually.

Hello Kitty · May 05, 2006, 02:40 AM // 02:40

From the update notes-> "Added Necromancer Bloodstained Boots to armor crafters in Cantha and in the Fissure of Woe."

They listened - woohoo!

dansamy · May 05, 2006, 02:59 AM // 02:59

*claps* Yay!

Spawn1702 · May 05, 2006, 07:05 AM // 07:05

They listened...but didnt do it!

Still no Bloodstained Boots in Cantha...the update notes r wrong -.-

HawkofStorms · May 07, 2006, 03:29 AM // 03:29

I agree with Spawn. I just checked 10 miniutes ago and they were not available from Keiang Center. The update says they have been added but they have not.